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*Sunday morning, Charlamagne Tha God was on Joy Reid‘s MSNBC’s show “AM Joy” to speak on his Friday interview with Joe Biden which ended with the popular radio host’s suggestion that he might still have “questions” for the candidate before the 2020 election and the former Vice President responding with his now-infamous “you ain’t black” comment.
“You’ve got more questions? Well, I tell you what, if you have a problem figuring out whether you’re for me or Trump, then you ain’t black.”
The presumptive Democratic presidential nominee appeared to say it in jest, but the “joke” fell flat. Real flat and he apologized shortly thereafter on a conference call with the Black Chamber of Commerce.
Reid played Charlamagne a portion of his apology, in which Biden admitted he was being “cavalier” and said, “No one should have to vote for any party based on their race or religion or background.”
The “AM Joy” host then wanted to know if there’s a “risk” that Biden and the Democratic Party as a whole take the black vote for granted?
“I know that’s the attitude. That’s why I don’t ever care about the words and the lip service and the apology is cool, but the best apology is actually a black agenda,” Charlamagne responded.
“They’ve got to make some real policy commitments to black people,” he continued. “We’ve got to stop acting like the fact that blacks are overrepresented in America when it comes to welfare, poverty, unemployment, homelessness, drug addiction, crime, coronavirus—that’s no accident. The whole function of systemic racism is to marginalize black people.”
Charlamagne, whose real name is Lenard McKelvey, went on to explain that the situation boils down to being a two-sided coin. On one side you got …
“whites telling us to stay in our place”
And on the other …
“black people saying, ‘Oh, stop, now is not the time, you’re going to get Trump re-elected.’” He said, “It has to come to the point where we stop putting the burden on black voters and start putting the burden on Democrats to show up for black voters.”
And then there’s the matter of Amy Klobuchar. In his interview with Biden on Friday and with Reid on Sunday, the radio host pointed out that Biden picking a progressive black female running mate would go a long way towards demonstrating his commitment to that community. So Reid asked him what he will do if Biden picks Klobuchar or someone like her, instead.
“On top of possible Russian interference and voter suppression, they have to worry about voter depression,” he replied. “And that’s people staying home on election day because they aren’t enthused by the candidate. You can’t act like this is the most important election ever but run a campaign from your basement and not make some real policy commitments to the black community and not listen to some of the demands that the black community are making. I think people are sitting around hoping that Trump loses instead of going out there and actually beating him.”
Watch the interview above.