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Mas90
Comment: I knew LA Reid wasn't going to do sh!t for her. He doesn't have a clue on how to make her viable like Madonna. From what it sounds like Rodney, Jam & Lewis are going to help ole girl out. I hope she smart and go independent or with Live Nation instead of signing with another record label. Cause Warner, Universial, Sony, & Zomba can't do sh!t for her either. I know she feels like she's been screwed cause she gave up touring for the 20yr album which was okay but she lost money from not touring. LA Reid is full of it... they did release my favorite song "Can't B Good" which has charted on R&B/Hip Hop charts (peaking at #87) and Adult R&B Radio (peaking around #20). Janet need a better advisor cause I would told home girl to run to hills after talking to Reid. He's shaddy!
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Grace12_34
Comment: Who gives a dayum? It must be a slow news day.
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Taurusingr
Comment: Damn Jan! WTF you gonna go now!! I hope you can come back! Sheeeeeit what am I saying??...If Britney f'n Spears (your "White clone" can??..I know DAMN WELL YOU CAN!! Just "take your damn time!" & make this next shyt COUNT!! One!!
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BKLYNVIAMAHATTAN
Comment: Keep it moving Janet, you will land up better than ever. As for LA Reid, the dog that he is. He was sent to Harvard and groomed for the spot that he has now. However, along the way, someone forgot to tell him not to cross people and think that eventually it won't come back to haunt you. Especially if it is not BUSINESS RELATED...IE...MISS PATTI LABELLE. Don't worry Janet, He will get his. Trust that!
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Teigh
Comment: Mas...Independent? She could put up her own money (because she has it) but she isn't; I think she would have done it already. I wonder who did that Nivea deal.(Janet or Island Def/Jam) it was genius, I would think she wrote that song used in the commercial (publishing income)and I think Nivea is sponsoring her tour. So basically what did Island Def Jam do? -- NOTHING!!! Live Nation? When all is said and done I would bet that Live Nation is going to outsource their "label" to Warner, Universal, Sony Or Zomba. Do you really see them setting up that kind of shop? I can see them doing digital download but setting up a record company? I don't see it. In fact I am anxious to see who get's the distribution on the Prince coffee table book & CD Project because he completely withdrew from the Internet. I think Live nation would press a Prince CD and distribute that package but I don't see Live Nation wanting a physical "record company", and various industry reports have supported that theory. The deals currently in place don't address CD material for some time. Live Nation has the lock on touring and merchandise -- revenue streams that record companies want a piece of but will never get. I agree with your comments on LA...he always wanted to produce Janet, had the opportunity and blew it. a huge chunk of those songs sounded like Britney Spears throwaways...She should have never left Jam & Lewis. That was a winning combination.
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huey
Comment: hummm...now let me see, is it starting to occur or has it already occured to her that she is just not hot anymore? maybe rather than continuing to to play record label hopscotch she should look at look at reinventing herself and having the label assist in this endeavor. play smaller venues. as for me, i wouldnt want to see janet in a 20,000 seat wachovia center. it just too big and she is not big enough....anymore.
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giantsfan
Comment: When is the last time Jam and Lewis had a hit?????
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huey
Comment: and how is this tour doing so far,,i never hear anything about it...it use to be when janet toured u couldnt walk five feet without hearing about it.
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Glsmove
Comment: She's DONE! She's old and like her brother she's still doing the same ole DANCES that are so 1980's. Give it up you've made your money now pass the TOURCH...
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Platinum
Comment: The tour is doing a whole lot better than her record sales!
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: IMO...The CD was sh1tty..She can expose a t1tty in Smooth or King 'cause her azz is still pritty...Sooner or later that overproduced, overbackground singing, overdone, overexposed sh1t would come back to haunt her...>huey, Jan can't play the small venues 'cause her azz can't sing...She didn't hone her craft...The economy is too fucced up to plop down 100.00+ bucks to see Jan's sex-act....He11, I can go to this lil place I know and see all that sh1t for a few bucks....and get a drink...I'm one of Jan's biggest fans but true artist get better with age they master their craft...Jan's still tryna be a teenaged boys fantasy...Disipline, WTF?...Her next CD should be titled Maturity...
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javone77
Comment: wow.......janet jackson huh? lol hmph!
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huey
Comment: boot...u right on point bro.
morteeen javone77
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cookyd
Comment: Lack of promotion my foot, how about lack of vocals.She can dance her azz off and that is what she can do, dance.That's it end of story oh and she is pretty.
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professo285
Comment: The album wasn't very good but I guess somebody has to get the blame. Perhaps it should be Janet? Her days of hits are long-gone. She needs to revamp.
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forthebruthaman
Comment: well, I don't feel sorry for Janet, but I don't count her our either....not just yet.
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Cappaucino
Comment: I think Janet still has the potential to move units. Her album was promoted up to it's release and thats when its sales were high. After that the promo stopped, unless your Chris Brown you need promo. If you are not the "IT" then people forget you. Record companies now don't focus on the artist anymore. IMO
-Peace!
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McNasty
Comment: Live nation has JayZ and Madonna so maybe they will do this child justice. I just think her days of moaning are over and unless she can bust a note she should just call it a day and learn how to shop, cook, clean and keep the little troll out the scripper's panties cause stories are floating around that one is preggers by him! Sometimes you have to know when to swish on off into the sunset because I believe a lot of them have come to their fork in the road. Jam and Lewis included! Hey Teigh!
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Industrypro
Comment: Unfortunately what is happening to Janet happens to 98% of all artists. There is a time in their careers when they are not musically hot anymore. Maybe this is a great time for her to open another business...clothing line, perfume, author whatever it is she finds interesting..
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javone77
Comment: huey: hi "friend"
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BronxBoricua34
Comment: I think she ought to give up the singing thing. Her vocals have gotten weaker instead of stronger. Her lyrics are incredibly immature (same as Beyonce), you'd think a 12 year old wrote these crappy songs. I think Janet's last decent CD was Velvet Rope. She should focus more on acting. She was pretty good in the Tyler Perry movie. It wasn't lack of promotion, it was just more of the same, nothing new. At least Madonna continues to change her musical style to keep it new.
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PRDC
Comment: I didn't like her last two CDs. I think Janet should really stick to entertaining not necessarily singing. her voice is a little to soft and I didn't like any songs on this last CD. Pretty girl can make it doing other things.....
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TMan
Comment: "Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." -- Albert Einstein. ;)
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queeniebunz
Comment: Co-sign EVERYONE! LOL. And yes, this must be a really slow news day for this to be the top story. I was just reminiscing back to Janet's Good Times days. Okay, why was her voice stronger when she was a child than it is now? Remember her singing w/Michael at the rent party shows? And Thelma did her [amateurish] dancing in the skin-tight leotards and drove all the men crazy. And Walona and Florida and Thelma did "Stop in the Name of Love" and Buffalo Butt Bookman did his really bad impressions. I digress...Now, Janet whispers and it's getting old and tired. And I do agree - her last really good album was Velvet Rope and the tour was off the hook. I got to see it and I'm glad I did. Ursher opened for her and that was good too. He surprised me because he really can sing live. I wouldn't go for free to her show now (but I did go for free then). That's the truth. That would be 2+ hours of my life I could never get back to see her do the same tired sh*t. She does need to follow in Madonna's footsteps and say it w/me, Janet - re-invent, re-invent, re-invent! Madonna has changed so many times you can't even recognize her from when she came out in 1984 and that's a good thing. I love Madonna! Go Madonna! Janet - just go!
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...I just read where "Good-Times" the Musical is in the works...Jan could use this as her re-invention vehicle..."member when Penny's mom took the iron to beat her?...That could be her come-back song: "Don't do it mama, please don't do it"...I see a hit for Jan...and when she's running trying to escape the beat-down..Her mama could reach out and grab her shirt exposing a t1tty and the, the curtain closes...Man, the crowd would freak...Jan's back...Do the musical
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Exmun
Comment: You know, it's always difficult to see a performer whose times have passed but who doesn't realize it yet. People like Janet don't realize that they've had 20+ years in the business and now the public has moved on. Seriously, there's nothing particularly bad about 'Discipline.' But the consuming public is now onto some of the younger acts. This is a pretty natural thing, nothing all that unique. Even Janet's denial isn't all that unique.
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TMan
Comment: B00TANEB00TUS, Good Times The Musical? Oh Lawd. LOL! I can hear those "Ain't We Lucky We Got Em" commercials in my head right now. LOL! Announcer: Presented to you by Dimensions Entertainment! Be Therrrrrrrrrre!" JJ: "Dynomiiiiite!"
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...Vivca Foxx just signed on to play Wiloma...Cedric is gonna play Bookman...They're still searching for actors to play JJ, Michael, Thelma, James...Florida...Jennifer Hudson may be intersted in the Florida role
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TMan
Comment: LOL! Interesting. Since we talkin Good Times, fellas, who do you think was the Finest girlfriend JJ ever had on that show?
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ....Missy Elliot could play Florida
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TMan
Comment: LOL! BOOT! LOL! "Dayum! Dayuum! Dayuuuum! Wiki-wiki-wiki-wiki!" LOL!
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TMan
Comment: The best part of this play will be the end. The Finale when they got the hell out of the ghetto. On the real, if there was something I ever would've liked to seen with that show, it would've been to see the Part 2 to the Finale, to show how life was for them once they finally made it to LakeShore Drive. They should've given them another season to show to the world at least a year of a Black Family makin it and doin well.
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javone77
Comment: good times the musical?!?!? aw naw
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: I agree TMan...but if they had White writers that sh1t woulda got fucc'ed up...It wouldn't be happy ever after...JJ woulda caught aids...Michael woulda got shot leading a protest march downtown...Penny woulda got pregnant while in HS...Wiloma woulda been a victim of spousal abuse...Thelma's husband woulda left her for a White woman...
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Sigmatherunner
Comment: Also you add that James never died. He just decided to cut and run and return 30 years later.
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musbdherbs
Comment: How many black artists have been able reinvent themselves time and time again and continue to be successful? No ones comes to mind but I'm sure there are some. Can nebody think of one? Also, does ne1 find it odd that Good Times is loved by so many black folk for depicting the same negative stereotypes that these same people complain about now. Just musing
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kwrob
Comment: LA Reid can't be that shady. Outside of Jam/Lewis, it was Reid, along with Babyface that wrote some of her earlier successful songs, unless it was Face that actually did all of the writing. I don't care where JJ plans to distribute her music. She better go back to the formula that helped her, which is Jam/Lewis, and throw Jerkins in there somewhere. Also, Jermaine should just stick to being her boyfriend. In some cases a significant other just can't be objective or forceful enough to guide an artist's career. It depends on the personality of the artist and his/her significant other.
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: LMBAO>Sigma...Yeah, he got sick of no-neck Florida...James and Wiloma were having an affair and the love-child was Penny....Wiloma gave the child up for adoption...James faked his death..."Cause he was sick of Florida's azz...Sexy azz Wiloma down stairs...C'mon you know James was hitting that...Wiloma was always in their house...James acted like he didn't care for her...but he was having some good-times in Wiloma's apt....That's why his azz didn't have a job...He wasn't looking for a dayum job...He was banging Wiloma...He only pretended to look for a job...
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kwrob
Comment: The album stinks point blank, and most of the songs on there do not fit the style of Def Jam Soul. Plus, she needs to stop whispering in her songs, and sing from her diaphragm (and not the one women use for contraception). At 42, she needs to change up her image and her style of music. She's 42, too old to be a dance first, sing second artist. She does not appeal to the younger crowd anymore, and her current style of music does not appeal to her generation. Get somebody to write some songs with some soul and some substance to them.
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deedeeVon
Comment: See you all are so wrong. I'm not getting caught up in the Good Times stuff... Well ok. I think Bookman was molesting Michael. Ya'll remember that episode where they couldn't find Michael and come to find out, he was hiding out at Bookman's crib? ummmhumm.
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dakoolestkat
Comment: BOOT...so who do you think should play the parts of Ned the Wino? the pimp Big Daddy Sweets? Thelmas fiance' Ebay? That neighbor who ate dog food? Geez...the list won't stop. LOL
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Stephanie
Comment: She's a has been! I agree with Huey she's really not relevant anymore. I would really like to see Jam and Lewis do something with Teena Marie. That is a real hidden talent IMO. Music nowadays is garbage and who really listens to the radio??? People should take heed that more and more folks flock to old school concerts. Frankie Beverly and Maze have never won a grammy, nor had a album out in nearly 15 years but their concerts almost always sell out. When EnVogue and Keith Sweat came to concert here in San Diego, I just knew I could purchase tickets at the door. I was sadly mistaken, that concert sold out big time. People tend to buy those satellite radios because you can listen to all the old school jams and good quality music. When you think about today's artists, which ones really has talent? Rappers including.
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gingerg
Comment: I hate to say it, but it is time for Janet to either change her approach or sit down. That whispering, oversexed image has gotten old.
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gingerg
Comment: Stephanie, you are right. I don't listen to the mess that is passing for music these days. I'm more likely to be listening to Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes, Teddy P or the OJay's.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >musb - actually, for me Good Times is a reminder of my childhood. We used to come home from school and do homework while watching Scooby Doo, Bugs Bunny, etc and then watching What's Happening?, Good Times, Sandford & Son and The Jeffersons and Barney Miller (though I never liked Barney Miller). That was the schedule. I can't agree more that the show is slit-your-wrists depressing. It's a frustrating show like Gilligan's Island. Those fools never got off the island just like the Evans family never got out of the hood. But I take it in perspective. It wasn't in the script for them to get out. I mean look at it - Thelma had it made twice. Once she had an African Prince Ebay (remember him) coming at her and wanting to marry her. She changed herself started wearing dashikis and corn-rowed her hair and all that - and looked really pretty w/the cornrows. [I wanted to be as pretty as her when I was younger. Hell, I want to be as pretty as her now! LOL]... So what if she'd be one of 3-4 or 7 wives? So what if she'd have to drop out of college and live in Africa? At least she'd be out of the hood, right? And then she met Keith - a soon-to-be pro football player. And so what if he would've cheated on her as he traveled around the country and as someone else said, eventually left her for a Becky? She had it made! At least she'd be out of the hood. But no. She dropped Ebay and he probably moved right along to the next unsuspecting pretty ghetto girl and she probably took him up on it and is fighting it out for attention in Africa right now! Then dumb-dumb JJ decided to take a picture at exactly the wrong time during the wedding and Keith broke his leg. Of course he hadn't insured himself as many pre-pro ballers do now. Did they do that then?So there he was - moved into the ghetto. And getting drunk and slapping Thelma around. (remember that episode?)What I never understood is why he couldn't get a job doing something else? He probably had a college degree. Players back then finished college more than they do now, right? How could a college-educated black man end up in a 2-bedroom project apartment living with 4 other people? And then they had the nerve to knock Thelma up. So there'd be another mouth to feed and another body in that cramped apartment. Where the heck was Keith's family? They didn't even exist. Why couldn't they go live w/them? ...
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queeniebunz
Comment: (cont.)...And Florida started dring a bus. Here in MD/DC, bus drivers live in Mitchelleville and Bowie, not the hood. Metro drivers make that money. I don't get that. Is it like that in Chicago? And Michael the militant nerd should've gone to Howard U w/his grades and activism. And I'm still trying to figure out how and why Walona ended up in the projects. She was a single black woman w/no kids. Did they even give housing assistance to a single black woman w/o kids back then? Do they do it now? Of course I'm overanalyzing this story but that's because the stupid-azzed white writers didn't know what the hell they were writing about. As for JJ's prettiest girlfriend, I think it was either the one in the episode where the couch got set on fire or the one where the girl was really Big Daddy's woman and she was just getting her picture painted for him. Though TC, Buffalo Butt Bookman's assistant cleaned up nicely. ;)...dang but I watched that show too much! Don't get me started on What's Happening?! Hey! Hey! Hey! (Had a crush on Dwayne Nelson)...
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soulmusic101
Comment: kwrob....L.A. and Face didn't write any of Janet's earlier or biggest hit's...All I can say is another one has left the Record Company Plantation. With a wealth valued at 150 - 200 Million she will be just fine....One thing you have to say about White Folk's is that they treat their biggest artist's better as the top 10 hit's stop coming. From The Rolling Stones to Rod Stewart to Garth Brooks to Barbara Streisand to Dolly Parton to Pink Floyd. Now I see why Tina Turner, Jimi Hendrix, and Nat King Cole said later, I am going to go after the "other" market. And while other's hate, I and my Family will count our money...lol...And the Media Critic's have given her latest tour 5 stars.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >musb - black artists that reinvent themselves do it differently now. They start acting. Will Smith, Queen Latifah, Ice Cube, Ice T (though I refuse to call him a rapper - he was a pimp), LL Cool J. These folks act more than they rap/sing now. Kids today really only see them as actors. Then there's T.I and Common (American Gangster), Alicia Keys, Bow Wow, Omarion (You Got Served [some sh*t]) and Lord, 50 Cent in a movie w/freakin DeNiro, and even fine-azzed Treach. (I would do him - bent over in the alley like in Jason's Lyric - yes I would!)... The list goes on. So, I say all of that to say that they evolve into actors and re-invent themselves that way. I'm sure there are others I just can' think of right now.
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stellababy5
Comment: All Ms.Jackson needs is to get back with Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis.They're
the ones behind her incredible career,
and JD should go back to doing kids music.You see how unsucessful his Resturant in ATL was and it's closed now.Janet should keep him at what he is, a Boyfriend.You see Usher's career
was sliding because of his wife's interference and her insisting that he get rid of Momma.That so backfired and
Momma is back in control and the wife
is doing what she does best,making babies.Janet I will follow you and your music wherever you go.Peace and Blessings!
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javone77
Comment: Queenie: I'll tell you what. I lOVE me some doggone ICE T on Law and Order. Yes ma'am. that fool curses and everything LOL
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...Yeah queeni, I nevah understood the Keith angle...He went to a big-ten college and was a football star and couldn't get a better job?....WTF?...Big corps woulda put him down just for his name value...All of 'em worked and couldn't get out the projects...I enjoyed the show as a lil kid 'cause I didn't know any better..but that was a fucc'ed up show...JJ coulda got a pell-grant or student loan to go to art-school...The white writers purposely wrote it like that...To show there's no hope...
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NYCsoul
Comment: musb> I loved 'Good Times', particularly the first 3 seasons with John Amos. To me, the issues the show dealt with is still revelant today, i.e. gang violence, pregnancy, alcoholism., etc. It was real to someone like me who once lived in the projects as a child and could relate to some of the issues. I never thought Good Times was 'depressing' or void of hope. Honestly, I like Good Times better than the Cosby show but that's just me. As to your question about which black artists have re-invented themselves, I would say Ronald Isley. What do you think?
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Taurusingr
Comment: BOOT:...You a FOOL for the "Missy" thang!!1 LMBAO! & "PREACHIN" about "Good Times"! We often look back & realize how maliciously oppressive some of those shows were back in the day! The REAL sad part is after ALL THESE YEARS??..."those" shows were better than MOST of the shows made in the past 10yrs. There has definitely been a hella "LOCK DOWN" on the progression of AA's in FILM & TV!! One!
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musbdherbs
Comment: LMMFAO@Queenie...uhm..yeah u did watch it alot. But hell, I don't know many black folk who didn't grow up watching GT's, The Jefferson's, and What's (Oooo I'ma tell momma) Happening Now. What was funny back then has now become a reality of the sorts of movies/sitcoms black folk complain about now. The difference is that these people who watched it, now blame hip-hop in part for the minstrel shows. Good Times...Tyler Perry plays..some ish..different genre..lol Queenie..is that what it is?..lol I just always wondered because black folk have been telling Janet to be like Madonna and reinvent themselves. I just wanted some perspective on what black person that has worked for. Most "reinventions" involve crossing over and then you become a sellout. Interesting nonetheless. *The Buhrown Cow Has Speckled Spots*
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Taurusingr
Comment: P.S... That should be...last "20yrs".!!
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queeniebunz
Comment: >javonne - Um, uh, er, I'm gonna have to distance myself from you on the Ice-T thing. I think he's the luckiest pimp in the world. He can't act. He's just "angry black man cop". That's all he does. No other emotion but angry. And he's butt-ugly. And that snatched back pony-tail hair style thing he's got going on - come on. Every episode - leather coat, ponytail, angry man. Even in the summer - leather coat. I'm surprised he hasn't melted.
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queeniebunz
Comment: musb - actually, Janet has reinvented herself a few times. She went from Penny to Willis' girlfriend on Different Strokes to whatever she was on Fame. I stopped watching it and never really saw her on it. Then she did Control - chubby but cute, doing a fake back flip in the "Nasty" video, then cute in the "so tight she had to have a yeast infection" jeans in the "Pleasure Principle" video. Then, she did Rhythm Nation and got all skinny and looked really good with the killer abs that made me hate her. Then she did the softer sexy look w/another really good album in "Janet". Then she did the "slightly disturbed/tortured soul" thing w/Velvet Rope. Then she did the long long hair thing w/"All for You" - a so-so album but she looked really cute. So she did reinvent herself to some degree. The problem is that w/the last albums - All for You/Damita Jo/Discipline - she got stuck. And she's still stuck. Before that, she was evolving and it was very cool. Such is life. Personally, I think her music changed when she dumped Renee, not the producers. Sure I guess he was (allegedly) beating on her and cheating on her and whatever else but he was fine and he did help her make good music. Now she dates a troll and makes sh*tty music. An interesting trade-off...
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...>Taurus..you know Missy could play that part...She ain't gotta neck either..LMBAO!!!...Plus she could provide some music for the soundtrack...Snoop could play Sweet daddy the pimp...Nick Cannon as J.J...If Mariah lets him...Good times was wrong for giving James jobs and then taking the job away from him...Dayum, it was fucced up how they teased him with jobs...I got the job Florida...I ain't got the job Florida...It went like that up until they killed him off....I know they had Manpower back then...And the Mexicans hadn't yet arrived in mass...James coulda got a dayum job....
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...In construction or landscaping
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queeniebunz
Comment: All I gotta say that James Evans was too fine for Florida's ugly azz [sorry for speaking ill of the deceased]. I don't even know how that casting or pairing happened. The character must've been "dynomite!" in the sack because she wasn't nothing to look at. She was too old to be w/him. Maybe she shoulda played the family's Aunt Helen or something. Even as a kid I scratched my head at that one.
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formerlyknownasarkansasgirl
Comment: Interesting Queenie you said her music changed when she dumped Renee b/c I said the same thing. Renee wrote and produced alot of Janet's hits. Maybe she should have kept him on the payroll. Speaking of black shows, where are the good ones? Back in the 90s we had so good shows. Remember My Brother and Me? Both parents were college graduates and on the wall beside the kitchen door, they had Delta and Que signs up. Anybody remember Out All Night or South Central with Larenza Tate, or Roc (which was a truly underrated show), or Parker Lewis, or Where I Live with Doug E Doug.
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...Ester Rolle used to scare the sh1t outta me when she was doing those fortune telling commercials late at nite...All the lights had to be turned on and my dog had to come in my room...My folks didn't like that big-azzed dog in the house but I was like, fucc-that, Ester Rolle ain't getting me...
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javone77
Comment: queenie: LOL he doesn't have the ponytail anymore....he cut it off last season LOL I like him on the show because he is the only angry one....stabler is just crazy...and benson is a girl LOL
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javone77
Comment: Boot: you are crazy as hell! All I know is they didn't have to kill florida evans on the front porch of her house in Rosewood. That was messed up! LOL
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Mas90
Comment: Kwrob... Babyface has never touched Janet... earlier recordings??? That's never happen. TEIGH... she probably won't go independent cause she trying to have retirement money. But something is seriously going on cause Rodney spoke out. I bet you she will be on his Darkchild Records with a deal through Jive/Zomba.
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: LMBAO...yeah javone...If they woulda shot her in the neck she woulda been alieght...."Cause she didn't have a neck...
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javone77
Comment: boot: stop talking about that woman's neck...or lack thereof LOL
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Name:
Exmun
Comment: Boot, LOL! You killed me with the Ester Rolle & big dog comment. You crazy dude...
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Taurusingr
Comment: BOOT:...Yo!....FA SHO!!! LMBAO!!
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Name:
queeniebunz
Comment: >boot - you're right. She really didn't have a neck - head just sat right up there - head bone connected to the neck - I mean shoulder bone...
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Name:
Southernbelle
Comment: Janet’s departure from Island makes her one of the first superstar artists to have the individual freedom to promote their work through a variety of avenues such as iTunes, mobile carriers and other diverse and innovative channels." Hmmmm, I thought Prince was the first? Well anyways, good luck JJ. You're gonna need it.
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SweetieDarlin
Comment: Madonna hasn't re-invented herself, she simply changed the production style of her music, other than that the themes have been the same, just like Janet. As SoulMusic mentioned we simply don't support our artist in the same manner as others do. Rod Stewart, the Stones, Bob Dylan etc. sing the same old songs they have been singing literally for 40 years or more and people will pay top dollar to see them, no one is telling them that they are too old or need to change their style (although they have all had different styles through the years.) We always have to go to the next big thing, even people who we claim have talent still don't get a lot of love when it comes to CD sales. Janet needs to keep her style and concentrate on being overseas where many of our artist continue to be extremely successful, screw fickle black folks in the U.S.
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TMan
Comment: queeniebunz, you make great points. you need to start a Good Times website complete with Forums and message boards. I would love to read the different comments on each show! LOL! One of the threads needs to be "What The Season After The Season Finale Should Have Been!" LOL! ;)
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Name:
TMan
Comment: JJ had this one girlfriend...Lawd, she was sharp. I had a crush on her. She was real skinny (weren't we all back then? LOL) but she had the prettiest face. Lawd. She was fine. I wish I knew her name. LOL! You know what is interesting? Alot of the young actors we saw on Good Times, What's Happening, etc. if you look closely on some ole episodes of Soul Train from the 70s, you will see some of them dancing on there, and I aint just talkin bout ReRun! LOL!
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Name:
TMan
Comment: B00TANEB00TUS , LOL! LOL! Oh Lawd! LOL! Oh! I remember those commercials! LOL! LOL! You had to keep the lights on? LOL! The dog ran out?!? LOL! Too dang funny!!!!!! LOL!
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Name:
TMan
Comment: OK, I ain't gonna lie. When James Evans kissed Florida, I used to be like Dang! LOL! Actually I used to watch that part closely cuz I liked to see how much John Amos and she would be into the kiss. All I can say is John Amos would be into that kiss each time. I used to actually admire his acting skills when he did that. I'd be like dang, he kissin her foe real! LOL! Yo, queeniebunz if you start a Good Times website for fans let me know. Someone need to start a thread on The Power of John Amos! LOL! That brotha could tell JJ something on that show and make me stop in my tracks as a kid! LOL! James Evans wasn't no joke! LOL!
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queeniebunz
Comment: >SweetieDarlin - how can you honestly say that? Madonna is nothing like she was. Her fashion style keeps changing. Her music keeps changing. Her whole vibe keeps changing. Come on. She went from "Borderline" with that punk look to "Like a Virgin" to the video where she was Marilyn Monroe to "Papa Don't Preach" and "Vogue", to "Like a Prayer" to the bondage stage with the video "Human Nature" stage to the whole "Sex" book thing to dating Dennis Rodman to doing "Evita" to the Austin Powers video to "Ray of Light" to a cowboy look to "Hung Up" with crumping in her video. Along the way she married and divorced Sean Penn, starred in "Dick Tracy" - that really bad movie with Warren Beatty, did the movie "Truth or Dare", had a kid w/her trainer, married Guy Richie and did a really bad movie w/him. She has changed so much in attitude, music and style that she's unrecognizable from who she was 24 yrs ago.
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queeniebunz
Comment: >Tman - I doubt I'll do that but I can say that I'm writing a book and I do mention how much TV and music impacted my life and upbringing. Of course I'll let the EUR fam know when I'm done so y'all can check it out if you so choose. I think my book - a memoir - is something most people my age can relate to. (I'll be 29+7 on Oct 28th...B'day wishes are appreciated and welcomed! ;) ...as for it being a memoir, well, I've been told for years to write about my life so I am. We'll see. I don't think my life has been that strange but apparently other folks think so, so why not? Right?
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SweetieDarlin
Comment: Queenie, Madonna did and continues to do Dance/Pop music, yes her production has changed to fit the current music style, and her hairstyles and clothing style have changed but her actual singing style no. Her attitude has only changed in the respect that she is a mother now, her ballz out attitude is very much the same. Janet's musichas had the same themes as Madonna's simply white folks are amazed at Madonna's look and push her staying power, black people say Janet is too old regardless of how she loks and ought to retire. Janet and Madonna never had great voices they had the type of voice for dance records and an occasional slow song. You may like Madonna better than Janet but IMO they are about the same Madonna has better support and respect. Madonna and Janet have both pushed the sexual envelope to the limit, in fact if Janet had done half the stuff Madonna did, we would be talking about her even worse.
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Name:
queeniebunz
Comment: SweetieDarlin - Madonna and Janet definitely have the same audience. And they do both push the envelope. I guess the difference is that Madonna manages to find a way to stay relevant while Janet has stagnated. Janet does the same thing over and over again. She has a video where she's dancing with a group of people. She does the same dance moves. She has even done the same "tie a guy up and give him a lap dance" on her last 3 tours! I mean come on. She started that on her Velvet Rope tour. Madonna has gone from pop to borderline R&B to techno. I totally agree. Madonna really isn't that good of a singer and she can dance her azz off like Janet. But as I said, she has found a way to freshen up her style and keeps it relevant and exciting. Janet is stuck. I like Janet. I wish she would grow up her whole style but for whatever reason, she hasn't. Such is life.
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Southernbelle
Comment: Dammit queenie, you are on it with these timelines. How do you remeber all of that? I got a test for you. Can you recall the Adina Howard timeline? LOL
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Name:
soulmusic101
Comment: queeniebunz...It's all in the eye of the beholder but Janet has better dance skill's than Madonna and when it comes to her live show's she can bring it just as hard as Madonna. The fact that 2 SuperStar's came from the same Family is not an easy feat. Sorry but Mike and Janet can easily compete against Donny and Marie Osmond....lol...I will take "The Velvet Rope" or "Rhythm Nation 1814" or "Control" over Madonna's best "Like A Virgin" (produced by Nile Roger's who did Chic, David Bowie's "Let's Dance", and Diana Ross's "Upside Down") or Madonna's debut CD "Madonna".
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Name:
SweetieDarlin
Comment: Southernbelle, I know you said Queenie but---Adina Howard what timeline? Heck she was out with Freak like me for about 1 summer---what like 92 or 93? I'd like to see her time line too if it was beyond 3 mos, she was in the same time Mc Smooth was a Pimptress, Apache needed a Gansta B--- and the stupid song 'Boom! I got Your Boyfriend' was out, then again it all seemed to run together at that time....
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Name:
Big10
Comment: I recently met Bernadette Stanis at Borders in Clarksville, Tn. First of all the fine is still there, and she was really nice. I got a picture of her and my daughter. I didn't ask, but I wonder why her career never took off after Good Times? Given the right role I think she could have overcome being typecast as Thelma. Hell, look at Ron Howard, he went from Opie to Richie Cunningham and one role made you forget all about the other. There are more examples but I don't have time to go through them all.
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Name:
BigBlackRod
Comment: Hell, Madonna even plays a guitar onstage now! We don't prepare for age well, at least in the music business. Instaed of growing up by putting out a sexual album, grow up by putting out an album with actual MUSIC, instead of this T-Pain, Akon-type schitt. I like to see and hear the interplay between a vocalist and a band, a band with actual instruments...PEACE.
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Name:
TMan
Comment: queeniebunz, cool! Yes, keep us informed on that! write your book! :);)
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Name:
SweetieDarlin
Comment: Queenie, maybe it could be that Janert may lack vision, Madonna said in 1984 she wanted world dominance, and obviously she had just the plan, I think Janet simply wanted to be at least as good as Michael and the Jackson 5, with that done, she was probably so surprised she had no back up plan. I think the best Janet tour was from the Janet album. I've always liked Janet as well as Madonna.
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Name:
SweetieDarlin
Comment: BigBlackRod, shoot many folks put out music with real instruments, and who buys their CDs? It's not that the artist fails to prepare for age well, it's the fact that we have a tendency to always want new, new, new everything must sound current, which confuses everybody since the younger serious artists try to sound like old soul singers (i.e. Lyfe Jennings, Alicia Keys,Jill Scott) and the older artist have to embrace the younger sound and get T-Pain. AND T-Pain got his schtick from Roger so that isn't even new LOL!
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Name:
vroger2
Comment: There are dozens of artists who are MUCH older than Janet, yet they still sell-out arenas... Tina Turner, Cher, and the Rolling Stones to name just a few. (He11, the Stones are so old they played at Moses' bar mitzvah!) So, it must be Janet's "music" and not her age that is the problem. Launching her lingerie line is a good start for diversifying. She also could take a page from Natalie Cole, Diana Ross, Latifah and others and do a jazz album. Or sign on for a role in a TV show. (Bigger actors/actresses have gone the TV route, so no shame there... Angela B%*$ett, Laurence Fishburne.) Step one is to realize that her 'cooing' through every song - no matter how good the beat - has played out!
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Name:
soulmusic101
Comment: This is why I give Janet prop's. I remember when she came out with that minor hit "Young Love".....Than she shook up the music world with "Control". Which of course was produced by Jam and Lewis, expect for 1 or 2 cut's, which was produced by Monte Moir. "The Pleasure Principle" was about the 6th or 7th track to come off "Control" which really didn't have 1 weak song on the project. That CD hung around the chart's for over a year and the video for "The Pleaure Principle" was sexy as anything Ciarra or Madonna could throw down.
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Name:
soulmusic101
Comment: Just so you know, Monte Moir was an original member of "The Time" which started off as a way for Prince to let Black Folks know he could funk and roll with the best of them. And Monte Moir produced "The Pleasure Principe". Monte Moir was the cool white cat that played key's....The label didn't want to overexpose Janet so the fine CD track "Funny How Time Flies" was never released as a single.
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Name:
Beezyuu
Comment: vroger2 > > everything you said is soo right. I think it's hard for Janet to grow up and grow older. She's outgrown her style of music and clothes. This girl will be 90 yrs. old and still wearing a push-up bra. I'm a hugh Janet fan and I'd love to see her in more movies because she was excellent in Tyler Perry's movie.
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Name:
Mas90
Comment: Funny How Time Flies was release to radio only just not retail.
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Name:
allaboutlydia
Comment: Janet a hasbeen?? Not. I have never been a fan but did go to see her concert at the Staples Center. IT WAS COMPLETELY SOLD OUT!!!!! I saw fans from age 10 to grandparents. Fans of various ethnicities. That girl worked the heck out of the stage. There was no part of the stage she did not work. She dances her tail off. LL Cool J opened for her (boring). People were screaming for her. She can make money from the tours alone. Since when is 42 old? If the average person lives to 85, 42 is not even half that. She is still beautiful. She gives you a show and her band is bad, bad, bad. She's not done. SHe just needs to reconnect with Jam and Lewis.
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Name:
BKLYNVIAMAHATTAN
Comment: on a show of post's, how many of y'all were born in the 60's?
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Name:
Cappaucino
Comment: I am feelin someday iz tonite...
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Name:
Cappaucino
Comment: and the ryhtm nation CD he he he :0)
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Name:
Cappaucino
Comment: I co-sign (allaboutlydia) except the part about LL being boring.
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