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MsBlake
Comment: Co-sign Najee. Homerun!! Based on what you've revealed about Jesse's relationship with his daughter, (which is a shame)its obvious Obama's speech touched a nerve. When Obama gives those kinda speeches its personal. Growing up without a father is very hard, and even harder being a black kid in a predominantly white community. Jesse needs to chill and I'm glad his son (Jesse jr) has publicly denounced his comments.
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MsBlake
Comment: There were alot of folks who were saying Obama was wrong when he told black men publically to start taking responsibility for their kids. I've always said if the shoe fits............well I have two cousins who are hardcore Obama supporters, that were so touched (and ashamed) after hearing Obama's speech that they made contact with their babymamas for the first time in ages. One has now decided he will resume child support payments (instead of using it to buy designer clothes and buy computer games) and the other has realised seeing his child only on birthdays and xmas isn't cool and agreed to have him more often. My point is Obama's speech has led to change in a number of households.
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Grace12_34
Comment: Those stories are beautiful, MsBlake. Barack grew up without a father in his life, and he had every right to speak out against slack-azzed fathers, on Father's Day or any other day of his choosing!!!
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Grace12_34
Comment: I had NO IDEA that Jesse Jackson smeared Dr. King's blood on his shirt. This man is a low-life. Najee is correct. Jesse Jackson IS jealous that Barack has secured the Democratic nomination, something he failed to do. (He will be BESIDE HIMSELF when Barack is elected POTUS.) He is jealous of Barack, PERIOD. The comparison between the two men is LAUGHABLE. I can't even UNDERSTAND half of what Jesse Jackson says, because it sounds like he's speaking a foreign language.
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Grace12_34
Comment: Someone told me that one day when the Twin Towers of the World Trade Center were still standing, Jesse Jackson accidentally bumped into her in the shopping mall beneath the Towers. He didn't even say "excuse me." I told her then she should've kicked him in the balls. Jesse's comment about castrating Barack left me stunned. If anything happens to Barack, then we all know who the No. 1 Suspect will be.
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NewSchoolPrincess
Comment: BURN!!!! Jesse better get his mind right talking about Mr. Obama like that. I loved Obamas speech on fathers day. it was very much so need. i do believe if you take offense to that speech ite because your a suck a$$ father who dont like the truth. oh and jessie jackson has always be sleezy to me but to take a mans blood and wipe it on you makes me nausious.
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xavixavi
Comment: funny, people never seem to read between the lines. Jesse can't shouldn't be jealous -- he had NO possible wav of winning anything, and he knew it. As for Najee, who some of you have ragged before, this seems like a personal attack. He apparently knows the family VERY well. all personal isht. AND yes the comment was meant to be OFF the record so I for one am going to ignore it.
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MsBlake
Comment: Personally I just think its unfortunate. I don't think Jesse Jackson is jealous cos he's been a very vocal supporter of Obama. I feel its just a foot in mouth situation thats been blown up and given O' Reilly and co something to laugh about. I still believe Obama's speech touched a raw nerve though and finally I wonder to myself what Jesse planned to do with Obama's balls once he removed them, did he plan to fry them with onions and hot chilli sauce?? just a thought.....
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yardi76
Comment: Wow, had no clue about the blood on the shirt thing, but I can see where he would do it, he is always looking for a chance to "come up" that Duke Lacrosse thing was enough for me to know he needs to sit down somewhere and stop grand standing. What he said about Barack goes to the heart, he is jealous, a lot of people supporting Obama are jealous, he is not the only one. He is hating just like Tavis Smiley hated on Barack. It is a shame that Jackson even went there even if it was suppose to be "off air". With Fox News nothing is "off air" and he should have known better. Barack was not just talking to black men when he made those comments, he was talking to men in general and both he and Michelle and reiterated that point, he is not running for the president of black America but of America period. He made the statements at black churches because those are the spots that allow him to come and speak, he knows the world is watching and listening and the message rings true across the country. Big Up Najee for stepping up to the plate on this one.
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HarrisThomas
Comment: JJ needs O-BA-MA!! to need him and that has not happened and it's definitely not gonna happen . . . . . JJ's Hymie Town remarks remain heavy on his shoulders and he has added an additional load to carry with public his remarks, so called off the record, about emasculating O-BA-MA!! the way that YTs continue to do to male AAs literally and figuretively
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HarrisThomas
Comment: with his public remarks
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shulamite
Comment: As a pastor... he has NO business speaking like that. And what a shame concerning his daughter...
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TGen
Comment: I knew about the [alleged] blood on the shirt thing (I thought everyone did, lol), I knew about the daughter outside of his marriage, but I did NOT know he was a deadbeat dad! Wow! Now THAT is interesting. This may be "personal" info, Xavixavi, but I think in this instance it's extremely relevant, brings a new perspective to this [what I initally thought was a minor] issue and helps things come together better. A lot of folks took issue with Obama's Father's Day speech and I really didn't get why, but maybe, like MsBlake mentioned, they took issue because it hit too close to home, lol. They were called out and they didn't appreciate it! Well whatever the reason, (JJ didn't actually confirm what he was referring to with the "talking down" thing), it's obvious he's had a problem with BO for a while and jealousy (or whatever it is) makes you do stupid things, and what he said in that forum, in front of cameras, in front of a mic was STOOPID, lol, and the response (the blank stare) from that guy he was talking to should have told him so. lol SMH I give this story legs for only a day or so more (hopefully), then hopefully JJ will return to the background--and hopefully go see his damn child, dang!
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musbdherbs
Comment: Najee...this is the pot calling the kettle back. You really should be the last to talk about Jackson. Moreover, for you to have dined w/his daughter and Karen AND end up putting thier (not just jacksons) but THEIR business out in the streets, you should be stoned. If you wanna write a story about the three of them, you should include the "correct" story of how all of this started when she was working at the old dc office of his RPUSHCoalition...EVEN THOUGH it was known that Mrs. Jackson was only a stone's throw away.
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musbdherbs
Comment: Somebody needs to write an open letter to yo black azz.
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TGen
Comment: Musbdherbs, I'm confused. How is this the "pot calling the kettle black?" Is Ali a deadbeat too? Hmmm But even so, did this article somehow exonerate the scandalous mistress from her actions? I didn't read that at all. If Jackson's "talking down" was in reference to BO's calling out deadbeat dads, then JJ's negligence of his child is relevant, no? Normally, I would agree with you, that putting folks' business out there is tacky, but in this instance, it seems relevant. Just a thought.
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fuzzygoss
Comment: Najee has firsthand knowledge about JJ's relationship, or lack thereof with his daughter. So, I think he is more qualified than anyone on this board to compare apples to apples. It's not a sign of betrayal for Najee to use facts to make his point. If he didn't have facts then we would be saying what does he know, he's just jumping on the bandwagon, blah, blah, blah. Obviously Obama's speech achieved the POSITIVE impact and sparked dialogue and even inspired some men to reunite with their abandoned children. Black folks if we can't stand the truth, then we might as well annihilate (sp?) ourselves because it is what it is. Baby Daddy's and Baby Momma's are not just prevalent in our community, it's the style in Hollywood, however, we have allowed ourselves to be exploited and ridiculed instead of challenging the critics. When someone say baby daddy, for now on reply who, Tom Brady?
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PRDC
Comment: Very well said......
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Reds
Comment: Najee, I got news for you bro, Jesse's offhand remarks about Obama's genitals is not what you need to be worrying about. You and all blacks who place such a huge emphasis on Obama's presidential bid need to worry instead about his recent stance on issues, and how it could ultimately lead to his political demise. His guarded response to recent supreme court rulings and his recent stance on the war raised many eyebrows, but most important is his recent so called "compromise" vote on the FISA Amendments Act. As a black man, and more importantly as a Muslim, you should be very concerned, as this is going down the same road as the COINTELPRO program which was used for disrupting so called dissident (black) political organizations. But Ali, you and blacks who blindly support Obama need not worry, because here comes whitey to our rescue once again. The same whites who only supported Obama because they were fed up with Hillary Clinton's continued "compromises" on the same Bush policies such as wire taping and the illegal war, are organizing on MyBo, Obama’s official social networking portal, to protest the Senator’s recent decision to back controversial legislation granting the President more spying powers. The effort hit a big milestone on Tuesday afternoon: It is now the largest self-organized group on Obama’s website, topping networks that were launched over a year ago. Membership spiked to about 8,900 people on Tuesday, edging out a student group with roughly 8,600 members, and one organizer estimated that the growth rate reached a rapid four percent during the daytime. The group initially spread through the Obama network, since the site’s platform instantly connects members through a dedicated email listserve. On Monday, for example, over 200 emails shot across the wire, reaching the roughly 2,300 members who opted to receive individual messages. The exchanges ranged from policy debates, like whether immunity was acceptable if the telephone companies acted in good faith, to organizing strategies, such as promoting the group on sharing sites like Digg. Then some activists open-sourced the project, creating a wiki-hub for additional actions — from calling Obama’s office to urging Keith Olbermann to promote the group — and launched partner groups on other sites like Facebook.
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TGen
Comment: Reds, why do you think Blacks "blindly support" anyone? Do you have any idea how insulting that is to informed people? What makes you think people haven't weighed the FISA thing (which I agree with you on) with other issues? Do you HONESTLY think that little of Black folks that they would be one-issue voters? Simpletons? Just something to think about...
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HarrisThomas
Comment: Reds, you are aware that the telecomms do not have immunity from criminal liability and you are aware that the FISA legislation has a sunset provisiion . . . . I agree that we need to be concerned about O-BA-MA!! changes to move to the middle away from being seen as liberal, but I'm not blinded to his actions: the O-BA-MA!! demise will more likely come about because you, the PUMAs, and others will make it so
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Renetta
Comment: I had no idea he wasn't in his daughter's life and that his son, who is my congressman wants nothing to do with her. Disgusting. I guess he attacked Obama out of guilt. SAD.
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CrazzeeGyrl
Comment: Interesting.
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selina1984
Comment: Really? hard to believe.i heard this news times from many friends playing on a tall dating site ___Tallmingle.com___,i did not believe, i think that they are know nothing but dating and love.
i am wrong.
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BlkATLTop
Comment: Good article. If what you wrote is true concerning Jesse's lack of fatherly support, I would imagine Karen and her daughter are both frustrated and glad that his deadbeat asz is exposed. Regarding the blood smeared shirt, I had heard this years ago. I recall seeing old tv footage of jesse parading around with it on. BUt I have never heard that Jesse Jr leaked the story of the out-of wedlock baby.
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NajeeAli
Comment: @musbdherbs...You know i dont care what people say about me, You and others over the years have taken shots at me on EUR,People come after me all the time when they disagree with me. In Chicago when i protested against R-Kelly his fans taunted me talked about me & my mama and still kept doing my thing. Its like Rev Sharpton told mt you cant be an activist and expect not to get talked about. But back to J.J. Since when is the truth a personal attack? Jesse did smear his shirt with Kings Blood. He's the one who said he wanted to cut Obama's nuts off , He's the one that got all upset when Obama talked about Blacks fathers being responsible. It struck a severe nerve with him because hes been missing in action, and only does what he has to. I was not putting there buiness out there. Do you think i would harm the mom( Karin Stanford and the child)The mom is indifferent were tired of protecting J.J. when the baby was young we all thought that J.J. would come around and man up. and be a real father instead he has rarely been there. So our first interest is supporting the child and her rights not to be abandoned. I can t see why people cant read between the lines I was being nice. Jesse Jr. even went after his dad. theres a lot of stuff going on which is private so I will not speak on but Ashley Laverne Jackson has rights too. and im not going to be quiet when i see J.J. and the hypocrisy of Black dads missing in action. You hate on me all you want but I love & take care of my children.
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NajeeAli
Comment: @Reds There is a time and place for every thing. Im aware of Obama changing some of his positions and no one gets a pass from me. But he is still the best canidate and my choice. I will speak to his public policys issues as well. But He is on point about these dead beat dads. and what has a lot of these brothers %*$!ed is that its hit to close to home that's why J.J.wanted the conversation to change.
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DCGG
Comment: NAJEE ALI shut the fuvk up...fake azz wanna be, self appointed leader of blacks...go get a real job loser!
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thelildiva4u
Comment: I got a question and maybe I’m wrong but what really is the definition of “Deadbeat Dad”? Is it a father who doesn’t provide for his child financially? Or is it a father who doesn’t spend time with the kid? Or is it both. I also have a question regarding how the author feels about Karin’s role and what where her expectations? There are a lot of dynamics going here and it sounds like a lot people are hurt, but let’s look at the reality of the situation with Karin and Rev. Jackson. It’s a sticky one that plays out in America over and over again. Weather it’s Lindys (SP) Lohan’s Daddy who has a 12 year daughter that he’s never seen (side note Lindsey(sp) said that if it is her sister she don’t want to meet her either) or the Caucasian, Asian, Spasian, Black, or Hispanic child that is only revealed after Daddy’s dead. If there are any Gray’s Anatomy fans out there then they know of Meredith’s story line of the consistent struggle that she has with finding out that she has half sisters. My point is that this is this point his on blast and making this a simple black and white issue is unfair. At best this family needs therapy.
My stance on the whole deadbeat dad issue has slightly changed since Father’s Day 2008. I took my dad to a program here in D.C. that was sponsored by the Urban Film Series. It was the first annual Father's Day Weekend Male Exhale. They showed two independent films, which were the Diary of a Tired Black Man and What Black Men Think. They also hosted a panel discussion. It was during that discussion and specifically the documentary about What Black Men Think that something hit home. Women make choices and what we need to do is help our daughter make better choices. So now I don’t see the whole deadbeat dad issue as black and white. I see it has we need to have a better families issues. Both men and when need to live up to the responsibilities as well as accept the consequences of their actions. I feel that this is what Barrack should be talk about when it comes to the black family. That both men and women need to own-up,
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musbdherbs
Comment: TGEN...well I think Najee has said it best. He's using this opportunity to knock Jackson because of his personal relationship w/Karin and the child she wanted. Najee, your purpose would be better served if you (as someone keenly aware of how the media will search through every crevice to point out some hypocrisy) had taken to opporunity to find out what Jackson was talking about. It is valid for any black person on earth to discuss how our "laundry" is aired publicly. It is valid that it would bother some...it happened w/Cosby. Jessie possibly having an issue w/how this dialogue takes places is in no way relevant to what he is/isn't doing for his daughter. By this display of convenient outrage over he and his daughter, you DILUTE the message. Write a letter to Jackson last week. Two weeks ago. Four months ago. This public letter only serves your purpose which is to take advantage (some'n you, AL, Jessie are all accused of) of an opportunity. "We're" tired of protecting JJ. Are you related to Karin? Married to her? Based on the clip I saw, I didn't see Jackson even attempt to absolve black men of their responsibility. Therfore your "purpose" in acknowledging his hypocrisy reeks of horse shyt.
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Exmun
Comment: All I can say is "Dayum!" Jesse... you have been officially called out.
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NajeeAli
Comment: @musbdherbs, Im not using this oppurtunity to knock J.J. because im friends with Karin and his daughter. Im just telling the truth. J.J. dont care about a private letter being sent to him. In fact other leaders such as Sharpton have talked to J.J when the baby was young and encouraged him to do more besides send the monthly check.
I never will forget about 3 years ago we were in South Central for a Gas protest J.J. led and he had his daughter with him but made her stay in the in the van with an aide. When i saw what was going on I went to go give her a kiss and speak to her and she got out the van and went to go be with her daddy on the picket line
instead of J.J.being proud he looked around nervously and told aides to make sure the media didnt get pictures with him or daughter. from that on i was done with him. I dont respect NO man who wont do right by his kids. not just J.J. NO MAN.
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NajeeAli
Comment: @musbdherbs, Last thing.. it appears you think i should have called J.J.out in private. but you have never cared about calling me out with others on this message board.Now that's a real double standard. let's protect J.J. the missing in action father. but no one else.
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Exmun
Comment: 'Herbs, as much as I share your [general] position on keeping political discussions free from tabloid type personal ish, I agree that Najee Ali's open letter raised valid points. Jesse's aparent anger at Barack Obama over Barack's father's day comments were way over the top... especially given the fact that Jesse's comments came more than THREE WEEKS AFTER Father's Day. And he wasn't even on Fox to discuss Barack's remarks. He was there to address the healthcare issue. So Mr. Ali's comments DO put some perspective on Jesse's reason for saying such a vulgar thing about Barack.
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musbdherbs
Comment: Oh ok...so now you're on a crusade against bad fathers. Negro please! You wrote this letter now because of the attention that Jackson is getting over this foolishness. That spells...OPPORTUNIST! Oh well, based on this interaction w/you, I guess it's right to as.sume that you are what you've been accused of being.
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Exmun
Comment: 'Herbs, I doubt that media would be what it is if it weren't for "timing." Pretty everything that we read coming from some form of media is an attempt to capitalize on an opportunity and timing. I don't see Mr. Ali's opportunity as any less than the newspaper or an internet blog... or even an Entertainment Urban Report on the internet. Sure... Najee Ali is capitalizing on timing, but it doesn't make his point incorrect or irrelevant. If what he says is true, then this may explain why Jesse is so angry THREE WEEKS after Father's Day to make the remarks he made.
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musbdherbs
Comment: Exmun..we actually don't know what Jacksons "anger" is over. All I have seen referecing this story is: ""See, Barack been, um, talking down to black people on this faith based ... I want cut his nuts off ... Barack ... he's talking down to black people." I didn't see any reference to his Father's Day speech in that nor..actually no specific speech. I never heard him say that they were over the top. We don't even know what he was on the show to talk about. Obama has made similar comments to his father's day speech b4. But, as I pointed out, the media only focused on it at that time. He's been saying. Could Jackson have been talking about a succession of speeches Obama has given about personal responsibility? Yeah he could have. That fact is that we don't know. The comment, "Talking down to blacks on this faith based...." apparently warrants Najee bringing up MLK, his death, and jackson's bastard child. WTF? BTW, can you post the link to Jessie condemning Obama over his Father's day remarks? I'll admit that I haven't bothered to search for them. But based on the response from black america and the media, he said them. Not saying he didn't... I would just like to see 'em and then I could understand what jessie was talking about.
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NajeeAli
Comment: @musbdherbs I brought up the MLK murder and Jesse smearing his shirt with King's blood because its a fact that Black people dont want to talk about, but need to see that even then J.J.was selfish.and for you call a little innocent Black girl a%*$!(@!(.. I thought more of you than that brother.
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NajeeAli
Comment: @musbdherbsh ok...so now you're on a crusade against bad fathers. For the record I have been on crusade against bad fathers my whole life. My father was M.I.A. I had no allowance, new school clothes or even lunch money somedays so i have always had no tolerance or respect for fathers like J.J.& all these atheletes as well that i have spoke out against over the years on EUR. This not a new crusade but a continuation of exposing dead beat dads.
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NajeeAli
Comment: @musbdherbs last comment because i do have to get to work regardless of what some people think (:
J.J. own son is the one who attacked him ! go to CNN or google his statement. If my mom or stepdad had said or done something crazy I wouldnt come out and say anything about it. It would be dealt with in private. For Congressman Jackson to denounce his dad show's a inside glimpse of how he really feels about his own dad.So call his office and get on him too.
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Exmun
Comment: Najee, I'm not sure I can follow you all the way to what Jackson, Jr's reasons were for denoucing his father. He IS after all a national co-chair of Barack Obama's campaign. There are any number of political reasons why a national co-chair might want or need to denouce his father's vulgar remarks about said co-chair's current and expected boss.
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NajeeAli
Comment: @Exmun well im not going to get into detail because i dont want to cross the line but its known that J.J. and dad do have some issues.I have right to be an advocate for Ashley, but I going to leave the J.J. & son stuff alone
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musbdherbs
Comment: Uhm...what do you call a child born out of wedlock. A%*$!(@!( right? Was it cra.ss? Sure it was. However, ASHLEY LAVERNE JACKSON is the illegitimate child of a an aldulterous mother who began a sexual relationship w/a sorry azz man she knew was married...and who would never leave his wife. Ashley is the product of that illegimate union. Jackson's blood stained shirt has nothing to do w/him possibly having a problem w/how Obama is using his platform to talk about black men. Absolutely nothing. That was 40 damn years ago. It certainly doesn't mean he's jealous. Boo-fkng-hoo and your abandonment. I was too. He started using acid, coke, heroin way back in '72, before I was born and continued until he was found last year homeless on the streets, after suffering from a heart attack. So yeah I have the same pas.sion about worthless dads. Is ASHLEY LAVERNE JACKSON starving, not being provided for, deprived as some of us were? Probably not. Instead of focusing on her trifling father, focus on how she progresses in life w/out him. This is no help. Also, the only reason I see Jackson making the comments about his dad is purely political. His response wasn't even warranted because the Campaign had already issues an official statment. He was being an opportunist just like his dad...just like you are being w/this silly self-serving letter.
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MorrisOKelly
Comment: co-sign Najee Ali.
All I'm going to say is that Jesse's remark wasn't the first one...it was the first one made public.
Can't comment further than that. What I will say is that Jesse has voiced a level of frustration that a number of folks, not just Jesse have said within their circles.
So know that this is deeper than just Jesse and remember, Jesse was the one waving the Obama flag at the State of the Black Union...so to a degree he has stepped aside.
This all is so very much deeper than just this particular incident on Fox News. I can't get in it...but just know it's deeper than just Jesse...FAR deeper.
But in the end, co-sign Najee.
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MorrisOKelly
Comment: As Najee has alluded to...he's holding back. This is deep y'all...and not over.
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HarrisThomas
Comment: so, MO, is this "deepness" gonna hit the fan at the convention? . . . . . is there about to be a buppie insurrection against the first black presumptive presidential candidate? or is this a multi-ethnic situation? . . . . . throw out some more hints so we can connect the dots
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MorrisOKelly
Comment: Harris...hmm, let me put it like this. There is and has been a contingent of folk (remember, I know a lot of people will read this so I must choose my words carefully.)
There has been a lot of folk from the "old guard" that have been quoted as saying this and that and allegedly are "jealous" of Barack. Maybe, maybe not.
But what is clear is that there is a growing number of people who have publicly supported Barack yet privately are sick and tired of him distancing himself from everything Black. And I mean everything. Some thought things might improve after Clinton was out of the way, but that hasn't been the case or at least not enough for some people.
This progression of distancing from everything Black and ALSO releasing statements "seemingly" denouncing anyone and everyone Black who does something that the "media" doesn't approve of (like the singer in Denver) has folks %*$!ed. And some of that is slipping out publicly now.
These same people are tired of being called "jealous" just because they don't agree with Barack's "behavior."
Maybe it's a combination of both...but it's getting hot amongst the Black elite and they're NOT happy with B.O. Don't think it's only Jesse. The "jealousy" argument only works so much and will so many people. These are also reputable, contemporary powerful people.
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Zumbagirl
Comment: So, Mo, are you implying that these people feel so strongly they are willing to throw the presidency to McCain?
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SewRite
Comment: shulamite>I agree. This is a reminder that EVERY pastor hasn't really been called. He doesn't promote Christ to me. Just Jessie!!
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BKLYNVIAMAHATTAN
Comment: ENOUGH ALREADY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! This is not the first time Jessie has gotten into a mess!.. Obama, is in a spear's throw of a serious mess once he enters the Oval office!... Now if ever, I don't care if Whisler and his Mother jumped on board.. we have to band together. My concern is very deep. For starters, This Black President... I'm calling it early, will have so much stress left from the Bush and Clinton Administration that he is pulling all the straws, including the short one... Which could be "Deadly". Now Obama is back on the campaign trail with Lady Hillary, hoping to gain her supporters, meanwhile, she is hoping that he can get the monies needed to cover her damn RUN!!! WTF... For the life of me, I know, and hope and pray, the Obama has a plan a,b,c,d. He's going to need it. At the present state of how this Country is being run... I'm not going to Preach... But we are living in the last days!! All of the United States need to step up their game! We are in serious trouble. The conditions of the Earth is a sure sign. The Rich are surely getting richer. %*$! MACAIN.... I MEAN IT FROM MY BORN AND RAISED IN BROOKLYN HEART. As far as the African Americans and those who wish to be called Black.. same thing! We need to actually think about 2 or 3 years down the line.. What really puzzles me, is the Fact that the people that really might have changed our course of time for a little bit has been sent 6 feet under... But our Government over the last 12 years or so, is still walking and can walk into a Starbuck or Seveneleven or even WaWa's and get a slurpee. What gives.
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JudgeJoanieInLA
Comment: One would think, after being overheard years ago referring to New York as Hymietown, that Jessie would have learned to keep his mumbling mouth shut. Wth as much racist animosity that Fox News brazenly promotes, why would anyone risk making any ill remarks within earshot of this news entity that thrives on the negativity it dishes out on African Americans? The whole process of these politicians and activists' hoof and mouth disease of mis-speaking (as they claim) and having to retract their statements is getting old as hell. What's wrong with thinking before engaging one's mouth and having to back-peddle with empty apologies? Let's face it, JJ's star burnt out a long time ago. He misses the limelight and sees no realistic way to regain it and, therefore, goes out of his way searching for opportunities to jump back on the world stage. If you really want to get an indepth insight as to who this man really is, you must read "Shakedown, Exposing the Real Jesse Jackson" by Kenneth R. Timmerman. It will burn you up, tick you off, and make you wonder why in the hell we put our faith and trust in Jesse for so long. "I Am Sombody," but no thanks to him!!!
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BKLYNVIAMAHATTAN
Comment: Good Morning, Your Honor :)... What's your expertise? I need some advice. Seriously. Many Thanks.
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Zumbagirl
Comment: JJ: Bravo. Well said. "Shakedown" really is an eye-opening book. Though it is written by the uber-conservative Kenneth Timmerman, when you sift through his editorial commentary, the underlying facts are extremely well-documented and many of his sources on the more damning stuff are Black journalists.
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lovebites
Comment: MsBlake well said. TGen what's up. Reds all blacks do not go blindly supporting OBama. But if you want 8 more years of Bush then stand back and do nothing. I for one want change. Good or bad it is still better than McCain.
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KappaMan69
Comment: Excerpts from Rev. Jesse L. Jackson, Sr's
1984 Democratic Convention Speech Addresses Current Controversial Obama Comments
"If, in my low moments, in word, deed or attitude, through some error of temper, taste, or tone, I have caused anyone discomfort, created pain, or revived someone's fears, that was not my truest self. If there were occasions when my grape turned into a raisin and my joy bell lost its resonance, please forgive me. Charge it to my head and not to my heart. My head -- so limited in its finitude; my heart, which is boundless in its love for the human family. I am not a perfect servant. I am a public servant doing my best against the odds. As I develop and serve, be patient: God is not finished with me yet.
This campaign has taught me much; that leaders must be tough enough to fight, tender enough to cry, human enough to make mistakes, humble enough to admit them, strong enough to absorb the pain, and resilient enough to bounce back and keep on moving."
"Mark Allen is one of the best organizers of grassroots people in this country"
(U.S. Senator and U.S. Presidential Candidate Barack Obama;
U.S. Congressman Jesse L. Jackson, Jr)
MARK S. ALLEN, 46
Recently included in the 2007-08 edition of Who's Who In Black Chicago, and listed in Who's Who Among African Americans. Mark S. Allen has over 32 years of public service on local, state, and national levels, including 7 years as a national staff member to the Rev. Jesse L. Jackson, Sr. Allen is a former talk show host on the legendary news/talk station WVON-AM. He is currently the Associate Editor of The South Street Journal Newspaper and Co-founder of The New Black Independent Media Coalition.
773-392-0165
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jhamil1029
Comment: NAJEE: Your attack on JJ was in poor taste. If you got a beef with JJ you should have contacted him and let him know personally. JJ put his foot in his mouth through carelessnes. We have all said or did something in poor taste at some point in time in our lives. JJ is not alone with his take on Obama. There are other free thinking African Americans that share some of JJ's sentiments about Obama. There are those who seek to divide and destory "US". Let's not buy into that old game. Obama is not without fault on Black issues. He is not a real "brother" He is a hybird. The off spring of a American White Woman and an African Man, raised in white America by white Americans. He is not the progeney of true African Americans. Under these circumstances he will be hard pressed to act and feel like a legitimate African American. Let keep it real. He is more white than Black. That is not his fault. We need to recognize that and not destroy him and the dream in the process. Obama with his faults is still the best choice for President of the United States.
You need to learn respect first for yourself,your elders (JJ)and your African American people. Stop airing dirty linen in public.
Peace
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princessdrre
Comment: Be sure your sins will find you out. If Obama has spoken against Jackson eventually it will come out. Jackson spoke against Obama and lookie here - it came out. Moral of story: be careful what you say and who you say it to. It will come out in the end. If the grass is green then why try to call it something other than grass? Why try to make it ivy? Or even snow? If you're jealous then you're jealous. If you're a hater, then low and behold - take your title; you're a hater. If it's dirty laundry it has to be washed out before it can be worn again. Washing didn't used to take place indoors and if you get it dirty all out in public then it's gonna have to be washed in public too. All the puns aside... *whew* Jackson was all out and thru with his mess. Obama may not have been talking directly to him...but the words were FOR HIM. Little Ashley didn't ask to be born; so the child should not be disrespected with evil terms. Regardless if that's the "name" for a child born out of wedlock - she is after all still a child. A man doesn't have to disrespect a child.
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princessdrre
Comment: BTW: To Najee - you are a'ight with me. Dirt is dirt is dirt. To Jhamil1029 - As for "respecting" Jackson....I (as I'm sure others) respect him for what he contributed to the Civil Rights Movement. I cannot however respect a man that was supposed to be the spiritual advisor to a man caught in adultery (Bill Clinton) when in fact he was doing the same dayum thang himself. I cannot respect a man that would talk (even in slang terms) about the emasculation of another Black/African Man by castration. I cannot respect that! I'm not saying that Obama doesn't have his "faults" - but I can say that Obama wasn't caught on National Television talking about removing the testicles of another man by/with his own hands. Have I ever done something wrong? Of course I have - and when I was caught I took my share of the blame/responsibility. If I did what I did and it was wrong (to others) and I didn't feel like it was wrong (to myself) I would not apologize and take the "fallout" even if it ment a harsher punishment. I was known as a person that (even if wrong) stuck by what I said/did.
Jackson said what he said because it's exactly how he felt. He "felt like jackin' him for his nutz"... Why apologize for it? He knows he really means it. Why lie and say, "I'm sorry." That's more of a punk move IMO.
Finally: to state that "free thinking" African Americans feel a need to think so vulgar of Obama is akin to likening African Americans to the savages that the other half of America likes to call us. Wow. Thanks for enlightening the other masses on how "we people" really act. *smh and sucks teeth in shame*
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