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tightendsport
Comment: OOOHHH that shyt last night! First of all it was everything I though it would be: baffoonish! Charley Murphy looked like a dear in headlight and sounded like he was speaking with a 4th grade education and his diction was difficult to discern. Furthermore, his monologue was weak. I did learn a few facts that I should have known (what year slavery was abolished and what year blacks got the right to vote). But that constant "we got to do better" shyt was so elementary and forced. I wrote a letter to the one advertiser "Jackson furniture" asking him to please not advertise this crap. I won't be watching again.
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khufu
Comment: I missed it...did Bob JOhnson say, "stifle creativity?" LOL man, damn shame
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Olivia
Comment: Well Bob was able to make a fool out of himself AGAIN. First Bob’s effort to new the most coontastic mistral is of the millennium continues. So if white people indulge in foolishness …we can’t be mad that the only black station indulges in foolishness too? What! I love it when black folks tell us to go support another stupid ignorant movie and call it a “black movie” written by 3 white guys ( one them are the director)..Who’s Your Caddy? looks like a bag of stereotypes, Rims on golf carts, black folks bbqing on the holes, farting just all around buffoonery. But shouldn’t we be surprised some the Queen Latfiah, Tracy Emonds, Bob Johnson. Actually we should call her Dana Owens, because Queen Latifah made songs like U-N-I-T-Y..Dana Owens made Bring Down the MASTERS House
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Olivia
Comment: Just another bunch of coontastic films
Coontastic Plots: Some Aliens pose as Black Actors show up at various venues and mess up white people “stuff”...White People learn from the "blacks" how to mess up (white suburban neighborhood, parties, public places, restaurants, colleges, airlines ect.) almost anything .Soon the white folks come to understand that’s what blacks do and receive their ghetto pass (which is an actual pass now issued by Homeland Security for whites by
The head of Negro Stereotype Department helping whites safely navigate among the people and places of browner territories). The ghetto pass allows whites to imitate the black actors (Aliens) negative dress, speech and behaviors, but must return to their normal lily white life within 24 hours or they will be trapped in Good Times eternity. Other coontastic films that one can enjoy Bring Down the House, Cookout, Marci X, How High (the Sequel, yes there was a sequel) So High ( don’t forget Red &Method coon debut TV series) Soul Plane and playing now Who’s your caddy? (This is a funny version of the coontastic mystical film Bagger Vance)…See another division of Coontastic films called Hollywood's Caucasian Crusaders Save the Helpless Blacks..Blood Diamond, Dangerous Minds, Freedom Writers ( black teacher don’t so anything) Amistad, The Constant Gardener, Blood Diamond,A Time To Kill, The Ron Clark Story, Mississippi Burning and many, many , many more
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JGGIRL
Comment: "OUR STORIES"? Certainly not MY stories. Bull!
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DrKnowItAll
Comment: I watched the show and it was obvious they tried to include more white people in the "ghetto acts". It seemed out of place and unoriginal. The best part of the show were the street interviews that really showed how uninformed alot of people are.. Almost nobody knew Clarence Thomas was only black Supreme Court judge. Most didn't know what NAACP stood for and even I have to admit I didn't know the exact year slavery was abolished (1865). I guessed 1850's... I would have given the Chris Rock answer and said "round bout 1964 after culmination of Civil Rights movement, Brown Vs. Board Education", etc... Charlie Murphy isn't ready to hold down a show. Bob Johnson's answer is the equivalent of Don Imus saying "well the hip hop artists say it so why can't I"... ridiculous.. Unfortunately Bob some of us do hold BET to a higher standard, mostly based on the high standards BET set in the 80's and 90's with supreme quality shows and newscasts. Mostly because BET stands for BLACK Entertainment Television. I don't care what people say, whatever is aired on BET gets attached to ALL of us, rightly or not, so why can't WE be more critical especially when we have to answer the dumb white guy's question at work the next day about something ignorant he saw on BET. I was more entertained last night by S.O.B and D.L Hughley. I was embarassed that the black people took that type treatment at that restaurant. The white guys were the only ones to get up and leave.... damn shame....
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bigchassie
Comment: you know...it would be so nice BET do something way off left field, like, show the documentary, "EYES ON THE PRIZE" wonderful documentary!
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bigchassie
Comment: and as far as that movie "Who's Your Caddy?" sorry, i will not be watching it. but i will support the movie, "Talk To Me" this weekend.
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gingerg
Comment: Say it, Olivia. People like Bob apparently believe all of the negative, ugly stereotypes about their own people. They have taken them to heart and it is a shame.
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bigchassie
Comment: GINGERG>you are right. it's a sad thing for black televison. it's as if they have no scruples. STEP RIGHT UP FOLKS AND SEE THE NAPPY-HEADED-COON-SHOW! COME SEE HOW BLACK FOLKS MAKE FOOLS OUT OF THEMSELVES! IT ONLY COST A DOLLA!
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McNasty
Comment: Ain't a mufukkin thing creative about hgm! This man is a sell out and could care less about 'our stories' cause his triflin' black as.s has been too busy building his coffers, thumbing his nose at anything positively black and making excuses every step of the way. Knee jerk reaction? Is he kidding me?! It's unacceptable that he would even think to compare the foolishness on vh1 with what bet is getting ready to do. BET has a chance to really be the preiminent station for blacks and they choose to get low enough to slither under a snake. No thanks bob reginald and debra - you ain't got a damn thing to be proud of and you ain't got a damn leg to stand on. It's one thing for black folks to willingly jockey for positions on shows like flava of love - it's another whole ball of wax for a black station to put the worst of what we can be on display - maybe it's not so good for us to have our own.
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McNasty
Comment: Bigchassie I'm with you girl, there is not a thought in my head to support who's your caddy - it's a terrible take on who's your daddy which in the hood isn't the most positive phrase! Since I was in my formative years when Petey Greene was on WOL and on channel 20 I have every intention of supporting that movie!
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beboyz
Comment: I dont care what they call it BET needs their azz kicked for airing that mess. I hated the parts with the man on the street interviews that made us look dumb as rocks. Bob Johnson is a text book example of a sellout. I won't watch who's your Caddy when its free on cable I sure aint paying for it. My People my People.
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McNasty
Comment: Oh, by the way - I didn't waste electricity on even channel surfing through that mess. I would appreciate it if those of you that did watch it would name all the sponsors.
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Dovelyone
Comment: JGGIRL>>> My sentiments exactly. Bigchassie>>>I will be at "Talk to Me" this weekend as well.
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recognizelife
Comment: SEllOUT..............END OF STORY!
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oldschoolbrother
Comment: So our story is passing gas, loud talking, being ignorant, spending money on rims and being a d*mn fool? That is not my story at all. The focus should be on educating our youth, black people were inventors and creators despite being oppressed, now our youth look at entertainers and athletes and "keeping it real" as the main focus. It is a shame. I refuse to pay to watch "Who's Your Caddy" or any movie ilke that.
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bigchassie
Comment: DOVEYLOVE/MCNASTY>i wish we can all go to see Talk To Me together. but i'll be with yall in spirit. but we got to see this movie. now, is it showing in all theatres tomorrow or is it saturday? oh well i'll call Magic Theatres to find out. and yeah, yall. what trips me out about WYC is that this supposed to be a "historic black movie that is produced by the first black production company?" come on, give me a break! this is what they are gonna throw at us, this piece of crap! this movie is like Caddy Shack meets Soul Plane! i have not or will not see this movie and judging from the previews i seen i will give it a AWWHEYELLNAW!!
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: ...Yo, Imma say this 'bout Bob Johnson, I really think he had good intentions when he started BET...Look at the lineup...Our voices, Lead Story, Tavis, Teen Summit, Donnie...I think the lure of big money turned him over to the buffoon side of the force...He's not the first nor will he be the last...Now WTF is up with Whos yo Caddy?...Is this the best they can do?....I was listening to the song car-wash and it reminded me of some old comedies...Uptown Saturday Night, Cooley High, Car Wash, Piece of the action, ect...These were really good movies and funny...No buffooning or bojangling....WTF happened?...I know there are some fantastic Black writers out there...Imma pass on this movie too...I find it hard to believe that a man as successful as Bob Johnson would green light this...and Tracey, Tracey, Eddie shoulda told you that this was crap...OUR STORIES MY AZZ...
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khufu
Comment: I am speechless....it's a damn shame...a damn shame.....
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Name:
Exmun
Comment: Mo' Kelly's blog at http://mokellyreport.blogspot.com/ lists some sponsors of the show. It appears that BET couldn't get many sponsors and filled the spots with commercials for their own shows... along with commercials from Bob Johnson's so-called film company (promoting Who's Your Caddy). But according to Mo' Kelly the following (national) companies advertised on H.G.M.: Hewlett Packard, Direct Insurance. Mo's got some contact information on his site. I didn't catch the show and didn't miss it. But I will definetly contact those two sponsors in an effort to shut that show down. It's a damn shame that it's come to this, but BET's got to get the message that they "Got to Do Better."
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butterpecanrican
Comment: Is Bob Johnson telling the story of selling the black image for 30 pieces of silver? No? Then he's telling no story of mine.
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MelodyCool
Comment: I agree, there's nothing creative about HGM and we can least afford to promote these types of stereotypes about our community. Sen. Zell Miller shut down production on a reality show featuring "hillbillies" uprooted and moved to a mansion in California due to the ridicule they faced. There are other ways to encourage "creativity" rather than floating HGM as typical of Blacks folks. If he include too many whites or Latinos...then we'll really see an uproar.
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QueenCityBee
Comment: The entire station of BET is a Hot ghetto azz mess in itself. However, I do like BET Jazz. They are like nite and day when it comes to programming.
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Timolyn
Comment: I got to see the last 30 min and unfortunately, I was not surprise with the street interviews. I did laugh at the one guy when they asked the year slavery ended and he said "we are still in slavery" that was funny considering the source. AND showing the yt's "what" to prove diversity. What I found interesting was "they" stated they changed the name, please correct me if I wrong, but every time Charlie Murphy opened his mouth did he not say "H.G.M.". So, I took that as Debra and Reggie (pillow talk) saying let's appease "the intelligent blacks" and changed the name, have it displayed behind Charlie all the time, but let Charlie say HGM every time he speaks. What was the purpose removing HGM from the title if they were still going to say it throughout the show. I only saw the last 30 min and I know Charlie said it at least 4-5x. Please tell me did I miss something?
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2ndChance
Comment: come on now boots there was "bafooning and cooning" in all those movies you listed. i doubt the older generation was filling up the theater to see those movies or most of the movies from the 70s. car wash? lol bye
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khufu
Comment: 2nd chance..no, that's not true about the films...
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Name:
khufu
Comment: black folks were filling the cinemas to see those films.......
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HarrisThomas
Comment: "Talk To Me" is an outstanding example of film about a slice of life in my home town . . . Who's Your Caddy? = diss-gusting continuation of HGM
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khufu
Comment: hey BIGNED/RED here the other day...made a statement that s/he was proudly going to see Who's Your Caddy? ...shame
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McNasty
Comment: That's why those blaxploitation movies are still running, because we went en masse to see them and there is no comparison to what bob and 'nem are doing now. You can tout this as being the first black owned production company while partnering with a jew to put out such a drivel product - it just won't fly. There are better ways to entertain black folk and showcasing what most of us would either hid in the closet or kill is not one of them. There are so many black stories that are just waiting to be brought to the big screen it's unacceptable that bet and it's lawn jockey's would try to sell us this mess!
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B00TANEB00TUS
Comment: Au contrair 2nd...There was no such cooning nor buffooning in those joints...I've been collecting DVD's of those movies and from time to time I'll view them...Car wash is funny so is Cooley High....I was but a wee lad but I rememember seeing theaters filled to the rim with Black folks of all ages...These were a lot different from the Blackplotation joints...Some of them I couldn't see because of the rating....
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gingerg
Comment: We need to make sure Who's Your Caddy tanks and support Talk To Me 100%!
Big Boi needs to sit his ugly azz down, too.
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gingerg
Comment: Bob likes to talk out of both sides of his mouth. Wasn't he howling about Don Imus' comments? Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
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khufu
Comment: Im curious to know what 2nd Chance was basing his/her comment on in the first place.....
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Mas90
Comment: I won't be seeing Who Your Caddy's which sounds ghetto. I've already seen Talk To Me back in June. I got those early passes, celebrity card. It's great movie. As far "Our Stories" company I hope it puts out better movies. As far direct to DVD usually the low budget films are not that good. Thats why they are direct to retail cause it won't hold audience and/or it does having the funding to back it to get real marketing to make into theaters. Who's Your Caddy sound like another ghetto %*$ movie from Queen Latifah. All he comedies in the past have been a damn shame. I like Queen but give props when they deserved, ya know?
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Mas90
Comment: CORRECTION: As far direct to DVD usually the low budget films are not that good. Thats why they are direct to retail cause it won't hold an audience and/or it does NOT having the funding to back it to get real marketing to make into theaters.
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TGen
Comment: Okay, I didn't see the show (didn't even know it was coming on and honestly, I struggle to remember what channel BET is, so that shows you how much I watch the station.) Also, I didn't get to read the whole article or comments, just skimmed through. So maybe my comment will change if I go back and read them, lol. But for now...what I gather from the comments I did skim and those on this website: http://www.accessatlanta.com/blogs/content/shared-blog s/accessatlanta/radiotalk/entries/2007/07/26/726_hot_g hetto.html, it sounds to me like the show was not as "bad" as some thought it would be. And from what I conclude based on others' comments, is it's much in the likeness of the Jay Leno "streetwalking" segment in which he showcases people's ignorance by asking them what should be easy questions about history, society, etc. When I first heard about this HGM show, as I wrote then, I thought on its face it was an ingenious idea to take a popular website and turn it into a show--that's just how capitalism works. I still think it's unfortunate that it looks like Black folks are the main target though...and it's more than obvious that showing Black folks' ignorance was the goal of the show originally. If, however, protests from consumers have made it transform into a funny show on ALL of society (color notwithstanding) then that can be seen as positive. But I digress cuz I doubt if I'll remember to turn to BET to watch it any time in the future...
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bigned69
Comment: Yeah Khufu, I SAID I WOULD LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING "WHO'S YOUR CADDY?". I don't base what I watch or see on how it will affect the overall uprising or downfall of our race. It is escapism to me, a mere diversion. "Who's your caddy" will neither uplift or castigate the human race, but it shol will make me chuckle a few times. Peace!
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bigned69
Comment: AND, IT'S BIGNED69 AND I AM A GIRL....JUST TO CLARIFY THINGS
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khufu
Comment: well bigred...films like WHo's yo' caddy do contribute to the castigating of the race.....
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khufu
Comment: castigation
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Name:
arkansasgirl
Comment: He has a wonderful opporunity to make meaningful black films but all they can come up with is "Who's Your Caddy". We already know we won't get meaningful films from others but at least we could try to do better for ourselves.
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khufu
Comment: and as long as there are those who will watch and spend their money at the box office for some diversion and escapism (as if they are dealing in/with reality in the first place)...we will continue to get the b.u.l.lsheet programming ...and this is what Robert Johnson, Debra Lee and Hudlin KNOW TO BE TRUE
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musbdherbs
Comment: HGM didn't live up to it's reputation and every imbecile who protested w/out even seeing the show should be slapped. Based on last night, the sponsors should have remained intact because there nothing degrading about it. I like Big Boi so w/out doubt I plan on seeing Who's Your Caddy. It can't be any worse than a Tyler Perry play. It may or may not be good but I don't have to find enjoyment only in movies like The Negro Parables: Life and Times of black folk. If it ain't you..just don't watch it and stop the shyt about the type of movies ya'll wanna see. It's obvious, those movies aren't fully supported (Akeelah).
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musbdherbs
Comment: BTW, coonin' IMO were the black actors on movies like The Little Foxes. Like Bob Johnson, Lee Bailey is also providing a service. Many times it is a HGM. Yet, it don't stop us from coming here.
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FiveMore
Comment: Question:Does BET call the shots at Eurweb now?'Cause if they do, it was nice knowing yall my cyber fam!I'm out for Good!!!
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Stephanie
Comment: OMG...I was watching that S.O.B. show and it was funny...especially at the nail shop. Not a "Chi-Negro" and "Baboon Feet". I really couldn't get into the We Got To Do Better. IMO, Bob Johnson sold his soul to the devil and cashed out...
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Uhuru
Comment: Johnson called the fallout Surrounding Hot Ghetto Mess a "Knee-jerk reaction that has a chilling effect on creativity"
I would like to ask what creativity... the show didn't have any.
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realuvbaby
Comment: Don't p.i.s.s. on my leg and tell me it's rain. I agree with most of y'all up in here. I think one of their greatest infraction is pandering to a targeted demographic as if that demographic is the only black folk out there. That's right posters, give'em hell, because that's some frackle knackle bull crap coming from anything associated with BET. A sellout by any other name is still a sell out. And you dang right BET will be called out to a higher standard, because no other people in the history has been maligned the way Africans have and if you are going to name your organization BLACK ENTERTAINMENT, then you should recognize that BLACK folk come in all sizes, shapes, colors and AGES. And I really don't see why and how come we got to be "street" to have any entertainment of quality. There are blacks in every level of professionalism and social consciousness. I don't see that high consciousness and black professionalism reflected ANYWHERE on BET. Who was that yesterday, all y'all money hungry so-called business people are mainly in the exploitation business and you can justify anything. However, black folk are much more intelligent than to buy this bullshat from BET. Tracy Edmonds brougth us Lil Kim countdown to Lockdown. To me, there went her credibility. She has two young sons. How does she feel about them watching this mess?
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Closet_Nerd_Girl
Comment: To put things in perspective, "Talk to Me" is playing in Atlanta now, but in only TWO theatres!!!!!! And the 2 theatres are NOT in black neighborhoods. Now, I'll bet dollars to doughnuts that "Rip off Caddy Shack" will be in every multiplex on every corner. (Takes in a huge breath and lets out a long *sigh*....)
As for Bob Johnson, his reply to the "Hot Ghetto Mess" hot ghetto mess does not surprise me one iota. His self-hatred is putrid. The only color he cares about is green, but I bet he has a white mistress... Or two.....
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realuvbaby
Comment: JGGIRL: so eloquently stated <<lol>>. I couldn't agree with you more.
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Name:
tightendsport
Comment: I watched that crap so that i could make an informed complaint. The sponsors were basically limited to one: Jackson's Unfinished Furniture and I wrote their azzes a letter last night. The only other commercials were for BET related advertising. I must have seen "who's your caddy" advertised about 6-8 times. That is the most baffoonish crap I've seen. We need to boycott the damn actors, too. Big fat black man farting and flying in the gaaaddammmm air!
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musbdherbs
Comment: Realuv..you got it right. You want to see things that represent you--those shows that target your demographic..as if your demographic is the only black folk out there. Black folk come in all sizes, shapes, colors, AGES, economic background, academic levels etc. As an educated, successful, professional, white collar black male, I enjoyed Lil Kim's Countdown. You don't have to hate yourself to do so.
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bigchassie
Comment: CLOSETNERD>SAY WHAT?? it's not playing in black neighborhoods. wait a minute...that must be during the limited showings, it's got to be because doesn't play in all theatres on the 27th??? please tell me this is true, cause i'm planning to go to Magic Theatre in Greenbrier saturday!
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Closet_Nerd_Girl
Comment: bigchassie- Right now it's only at Atlantic Station and I forget where else. I hope you're right about the limited release part and that it does "go public" tomorrow. I'll have to check on that.
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bigchassie
Comment: NOW I AM %*$!ED!!! TO ALL ATL i just found out that TALK TO ME will not be showing at Magic theatres! i talked to one of the managers there and he said they tried to fight to get it shown but they will not give it to them. they are showing it in only select theatere's in the ATL THAT IS SOME UTTER BULLLSHEYT!! oh, but they got HYC of course. i told him don't nobody wants to see that mess, he said they are going to try and see if they can get it. it don't make any sense. this is a great movie! tell me why in de heyell they do sheyatt like this! they did the same thing to Dreamgirls! and when it showed on christmas day the whole place was packed!
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Name:
bigchassie
Comment: CLOSETNERD>atlantic station? what is the name of the theatre there?
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Name:
Closet_Nerd_Girl
Comment: I believe that it is an AMC theatre. I don't know the exact name. I just read your previous post, it looks like it won't be showing in alot of theatres in the ATL. See, this is the kind of BULL CRAP that PIZZES me off too! I'm not one for conspiracy theories, but it seems as if "they" don't want "Talk to Me" to succeed. Then when it doesn't make any money, they can use that as an excuse not to produce/promote similar films in the future. (sitting here steaming....)
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bigchassie
Comment: CLOSET NERD>i know that's right. that is utter byullsheyatt!!
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Name:
bigchassie
Comment: CLOSETNERD>oh but let WYC be playing. everybody and their mama going to be all up in that camp! it don't make any sense!
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Name:
2ndChance
Comment: khufu i was basing my opinion on the fact that dang near every comedy in the past decade and virtually every comedian has been called a coon (i hate that damn term) by the generation that raised them. i like carwash but if i'm not mistaken there is a hooker in the bathroom, a money seeking evangelist, and every other stereotype from the 70s. cooley high? young black men skipping class, longing for the athletic scholarship, joyriding, beating someone to death, and screwing on a $1 bet. please. bye.
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rikyrah
Comment: Hot Ghetto Mess was a Coon Show. It was part of the Mistrel Entertainment that Johnson got away with because we didn't want to be 'too hard on a Brother'. Well, 'The Brother' fed our children visual POISON for nearly 2 decades, contributing nothing positive for the community. I'm glad folks stood up to the new wave of Coonery. And 'Whose Your Caddy' is but his Minstrel Form on a movie reel.
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Name:
MomaKnowz
Comment: B00Taneous... I tend to think that BET's former great programming had a lot to do with ***Mrs.*** (Sheila) Bob Johnson's input moreso than ole Bob. Around the time that Sheila left BET, it went downhill... rapidly, hit a low skid and hasn't recovered. Ole Bob, on the other hand, has made his notion *clear* from the start. He's about money. Unfortunately for us, his ability to green light a project is going to keep us nailed to the tree far longer than any of us had hoped. Who's Your Caddy and HGM are his notion of "creative" (Do I hear crickets???) He's delusional. Ya know, self hatred is the worst kind of hatred. Somebody get that memo to ole Bob.
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Name:
gsmooth
Comment: Once again BOB (pimping) JOHNSON has opened up his big %*$ mouth .I know we are picking on poor %*$ B E T
Bob has done more to denegrate black people than any one person on the planet earth he is the willy lynch of the new millenium . B E T is a hot ghetto mess and i am tired
of this B.S. BOB take your blood money and slink under a rock somewhere Thank you E U R i waited 10 years to say that hopefully we will not continue be humilated by thesen pimps
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Name:
windwalker1313
Comment: F--- Bob Johnson! Message to Bob: "Money does not have to trump integrity."
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Name:
windwalker1313
Comment: "Our Stories"! What the hell is he talking about?
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Name:
windwalker1313
Comment: I will not support the movie Who's Your Caddy' -- and will tell friends and family (black and white) never to watch it (theatre or rental). That means I can cause 50-60 other folks to make sure that the movie flops.
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KarenHatter
Comment: How much more time does BET need to mature? The network was founded in 1980! That was 27 years ago! I believe that is more than enough time to attain maturity! Segments of the community have confronted Bob Johnson for years about his programming at the network, requesting more dignified programming for years, which fell, for the most part, on deaf ears.
I certainly do hope that, “.... creative people who want to tell stories or produce shows like Hot Ghetto Mess....” decide not to do so for whatever reasons!
It's not being ".... holier than thou", Mr. Johnson. It's about responsibility and accountability. As you point out, we are beset by negative images, for the sake of the shock value of the tasteless and grotesque. Do we honestly need anymore shows like those named or similar to those named to be made by anyone?
I question the characterization that suggests that Hot Ghetto Mess represents any form of creativity. As best as I can understand it, it seems Bob Johnson's perspective is this is a skirmish for BET's ability to claim the right to be an equal opportunity debaser to make money.
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