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Name: queeniebunz

Comment: I think that J-Lo has sabotaged herself. She will never be considered to be a great actress because she is such a personality now. She is "J-Lo" and even though she is a decent actress, a barely decent singer and a great dancer, her personality and her butt is all people tend to think of when they think of her. She has eliminated herself from the caliber of say, Cate Blanchett or Nicole Kidman level actresses because she is all over the place with her fashion and music and her very public relationships. Bottom line pun accidental) - She did it to herself.

Name: ATLGirl

Comment: I found the article unfairly harsh. The movie brings attention to a story that needs to be told. She's not a bad actress. Is the problem that she's had success in multiple areas?

Name: fuzzygoss

Comment: Jenny suck it up! A reality check is humbling!

Name: queeniebunz

Comment: >ATLgirl - Think about it. What do all of these "I want to conquer the world" types have in common? Think Madonna, Beyonce, Britney, J-Lo, Jessica Simpson, Lindsay Lohan, Paris, Hillary Duff - they are all terribly over-exposed. And, they are all trying to do things that they are really not that good at. Sarah Jessica Parker can act and sing. She started on Broadway as a child but you don't see her trying to cut a record. Why? Because acting is her concentration so when she decides to do a perfume, nobody is mad at her. She has earned her place as a fashion icon on Sex and the City so a perfume makes sense. And my girl Gwen Stefani doing fashion - it makes sense. She is known for her wacky avante garde style. She did dip her toe in acting but she is smart enought keep her main focus on music and fashion so we don't get tired of her. But Paris, Jessica, Britney, Madonna and Beyonce acting - nah. J-Lo, Lindsay, Hillary, Paris singing - so so to awful. And look at Christina Aguilera. She has probably been offered acting roles but she is a singer and she is smart enough to know to stick to what she excels at. After awhile the ones who want everythimg become the people you love to hate because they won't go away and what they are offering to the public is mediocre to awful. Does that mean people don't suck it up like sheep? No. They do. But that doesn't make everything they do wonderful.

Name: ATLGirl

Comment: queeniebunz ---> I agree that overexposure is a risk that all the women you list have taken. However, I just think the vitriol is unnecessary. If someone else is trying to do something they are not good at, what affect does that have on anyone else but that person?

Name: queeniebunz

Comment: >ATL - I hope you don't mean vitriol on my part. I could care less what they do. I will buy what I want and leave the rest on the shelf w/no hard feelings. Nice vocab word, by the way - vitriol...but it is like I said - people love to hate them all because they are so in our face. Doesn't make it right but as you said it is the risk they took. In this country, as around the world, people get pushed to the top and then knocked off the mountain gleefully by jealous folk. That's the way of things. I will say this, though - you don't see the classy ones getting knocked off the mountain - Meryl Streep, Denzel Washington, Danny Glover, Sarah Jessica Parker, even Will Smith, etc. People love to love them. Perhaps the ones we are discussing should take a cue from the classy ones...

Name: ChicagoLady

Comment: Queenie...I don't know about Will Smith - he was a grammy awarding winning rapper and took a chance on acting that paid off real big - $10-20 mill a picture and 2 academy award noms to boot. Its the way the movie was produced that screwed her - it should have been a docudrama, like Hotel Rwanda, thereby the plight would have keep its integrity. However she produced it as a cheap real-events thriller attempting to entertain with such a terrible subject matter. How utterly shallow. Live and learn!

Name: leeneepoo

Comment: I like the conversation that is taking place. I have one comment as well...ATL you mentioned that: "if someone else is trying to do something they are not good at, what affect does that have on anyone else but that person? I say it does have an affect on the people's expectations of what the person should do/be. We expect JLo to excel at whatever she does and when she or some other person does not our expectations are shot to HE!! and then what's left...stick to what you can excel and make it work for ya!! in doing so Jlo and the others would not have these harsh words thrown at them when they go outside of their mainstream....we watch these people and comment on them daily and we expect a certain level of entertainment that we know they process...its nice to be a jack of all trades but you can not kid yourself to try and master them all....

Name: ATLGirl

Comment: queenie and leenee, my response would be that no one, or at least very few, plan for mediocrity. JLo didn't plan for it to be a bad movie. JLo didn't plan to be an OK actress. JLo didn't plan to be considered mediocre singer. It happens (a lot). Why can't an adult keep trying many things until he excells at something? She has the means and the desire. Admittedly, hers is a much more public endeavor, so when she fails more people know. I just think saying she shouldn't what interests her because of overexposure isn't reason enough not to do anything. The most successful people, by any measure of success, are the ones willing to take chances in the face of great doubt.

Name: leeneepoo

Comment: ATL you are absoulutely right, especially the part about exposure. I believe that exposure is a good thing. I also believe that too much exposure is a good thing..and maybe that is just it. Jlo and others are overexposed because they do not want no one to forget them. We know her work from past projects so when their is a new kind of "jack" that they are trying to master it makes disappointed somehow when they do not succeed, especially because we are all movie goers and we know their work. Personally I feel she has lots of talent and I enjoyed some of her past projects but being the in-famous person that she and others are she should have known from experience and exposure that this gig was not the one for her.

Name: leeneepoo

Comment: It makes us disappointed somehow...sorry

Name: AgentJ

Comment: Haven't seen Bordertown, so I can't comment on how it was presented. If it was done tastefully and artistically and they're just being overly critical, then she has every right to be upset. Now, if due diligence wasn't apparent, considering the subject matter, then hell yeah they should have panned her. Would "X" have been acceptable if Spike played with the subject matter? Hotel Rwanda? Amazing how this convo of exposure comes up. A group of us were just commenting on how sick of all of those mentioned (and others) we are. How eager everyone is for them to have their comeuppance, so they'll go away - if only for a little while. I like sunshine, but too much will give you cancer, sunstroke, etc. I like snow, but too much can cause frostbite. I like spaghetti, but not every damn day! And while I like some of the aforementioned, after the movie/song/show is over, they ain't gotta go home, but they gotta get the hell off my screen! There's nothing wrong with being multi-talented. But even Benjamin Banneker only gets one month to shine, and he did a whole lot more than any of them, wouldn't you agree???

Name: ChicagoLady

Comment: AgentJ - excellent point regarding over-exposure. After awhile the public can just get sick of you. I for one am Beyonce and Bald-headed Britney Spears sick. Not hating, just telling it like it is and I know I ain't alone. As far as J.Lo's acting goes - she's a light romantic-comedy actress at best and perhaps now that she knows this - maybe that's what she'll stick to. Every single actor/actress isn't for the dramatic screen or will ever be Oscar worthy. I'm still tripping on Markie Mark opps...he now goes by Mark Wahlberg now doesn't he? LOL

Name: dcdouglass01

Comment: D a m n. And I thought some us were being hard on Beyonce on the other board. Jennifer's people got her crying. And Jennifer had actually laid low for awhile.

Name: Peekiebear

Comment: The story about the murders and multilations which number in the hunfreds has been going on for YEARS. These women are raped, mutilated and murdered in the hundreds (last I heard it was over 400 women)- and their bodies are left out in plain sight. They average around 2 murders a DAY- all women. There is a narrow fenced-in walkway that they have to pass through to get to and from work- and this is where they are murdered. The police don't care and never have. Mexican men don't have any sympathy- they say that the women are "taking food out of our mouths"- but they never seem to mind that paycheck the women bring home. This has been a scandal for YEARS and yet we only heard about in america when the number of murdered women was around 200! Women, mothers, sisters of these women have been fighting for YEARS for help- and nothing. None of them look like J-Lo, of course. So for her to jump in so late in the day- a woman who could have used her influence to get the police involved- is a crime in and of itself. She just saw a juicy story and saw it as her comeback. She should have stayed out of the picture and made it into a documentary- now people would have paid attention to that.

Name: CandyCane

Comment: Being honest, the only movie that was good that Jlo was in, is Selena. Her keeps doing sshittty movies which is bringing her acting skills down a notch in the public eye. She is a good actress though

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